Parish Council Minutes - November 2014

  • Minutes of meeting held 12th November 2014 in the Supper Room Gosforth Public Hall - 7.30pm


    Present : Dr Hutson; Messrs. Gray, Jacob, Norman (Chairman), Walton.


    1. Apologies: Messrs. McKinley, Rae, Wright; Mrs Gallery-Strong.


    2. Declarations of interest . None


    3. Chairman's opening remarks. None.


    4. Minutes of the previous meeting held on 8th October 2014. These were approved (Proposed Mr Gray, seconded Dr Hutson)


    5. Actions arising from the minutes.

    1. Arrange meeting with council solicitor ref Carpark transfer. Action – The Clerk.

    Action ongoing.

    2. Assess financial risks to PC should management involvement with the Pavilion become necessary.

    Action ongoing – Next Finance Committee meeting. Action – The Finance Committee.

    3. Arrange purchase of seat for carpark. Action – The Clerk.

    Action complete – Seat delivered.

    4. Check insurance details ref painting of toilets and place order if satisfactory.

    Action ongoing. Action – The Clerk.

    5. Write to HSBC Bank ref closure. Action – The Clerk.

    Action complete – Bank still intends to close. (See also Item 6b below).

     Note: It has since been announced that the Natwest Branches in Seascale (and Cleator Moor) are also to be closed.

    6. Provide further analysis of traffic data. Action – Mr Rae.

    Action complete – SeeItem 7a below.

    7. Write to Insp Wear ref Police Reports Action – The Clerk.

    Action complete – See Item 11 below.

    8. Find out from Copeland BC which streetlights are at risk. Action – Mr Jacob.

    Action ongoing.

    9. Write to Mr Melville ref Campsite direction sign in Wasdale Road. Action – The Clerk

    Action complete – No reply to date.


     6. Financial matters


    a) Monthly Financial report. (Mr Norman expressed an interest). This was approved (Proposed Dr Hutson, seconded Mr Jacob). Mr Norman drew attention to the donation of £132.50 from the Onion Club which was specifically for maintenance/ improvements of the War Memorial. The Clerk was asked to inform Mr Hobson and to clarify the future of the local branch of the British Legion which it was rumoured was terminating.

    b) Bank Closure. The Clerk said that letters to the HSBC Bank highlighting the difficulties posed for customers in the Gosforth area had fallen on deaf ears and the closure was to go ahead on 12 th December. He had started negotiations with Natwest with a view to changing the council’s banking arrangements, but a recent announcement by Natwest meant that the Seascale (and Cleator Moor) branches were also to close. He said that he would enquire from the Post Office exactly what transactions could be carried out via its system which would enable council business to be enacted locally before any decision was made to change banking arrangements. In response to a suggestion he said he would enquire from Natwest if they had any plans for extending the mobile banking service. To the Gosforth/ Seascale area.

    c) 2015-16 Parish Council budget. The Clerk asked that any member who wished to identify expenditure for projects for 2015- 16 should inform him or the Chairman ASAP. Mr Gray mentioned that extra provision may have to be made for the Playing Field pavilion. The Clerk said that this had already been picked up by the Finance Committee. The Clerk said that he had been informed by Copeland BC that the charge for running the election for the Parish Council in May 2015 would be ~ £960 which would also have to be budgeted for.


     7.Main Business.  

    a) Traffic Plan. The Clerk said that Mr Rae had sent him a report from a meeting with Mr Cosgrove (CCC Highways) which promised an update of the traffic plan for the next meeting, including proposals for providing additional pedestrian protection near the Library and upgrading of white lines. The opportunity would be taken to include raise issues which had not been included in the report.

    b) CCC budget (Papers sent out). Transferred to the next meeting.

    c) Magazine distribution . The Chairman said that he was anxious to ensure that all residents should have access to the new magazine which is now published 3 times per year. While it was reasonable to hand deliver copies to premises within the village, posting copies to the outlying areas was time consuming and costly. It was agreed that The Clerk would write to all those residents informing them of the options: Hard copies could be picked up from the Village Shop and Copeland House; an electronic copy could be forwarded to anyone who gave The Clerk an e-mail address; a link would be provided on the Gosforth Village web- site to the publisher’s web-site where a copy (and back copies) could be viewed and downloaded. This information would be publicised in What’s On and the web-site.

    Note: The way to find the village magazine on the web is to log into
    Then click onto "Village Newsletters"
    Then click onto "Tethera"

    8. Representative's reports. Mr Gray reported on the Mid Copeland Partnership Meeting held on Tuesday 21st October. Peter Van Zeller gave a presentation on the Mill at Boot and plans for sustaining it into the future which included installing a water wheel for generating electricity and creating an income by its sale to the electric companies. Progress by BRAG (Boot Riverside Action Group) was given by Eric Barker a CBC development officer. David Killick the Wasdale Parish clerk gave the latest position on the planned visitor improvements at Wasdale Head; this involves developing the car park and toilets at the head of the lake but improvements at the valley head were still under discussion. Wastwater has been declared the purest lake in England but there is as a result concern that use of the lake could be affected. Rebecca Cathey is the new Area Ranger for the National Park replacing Graham Standring.
    The next Neighbourhood meeting will be on Tuesday the 25th of November at the Seascale Bowling Club. The No 6 bus service now run by Reay's is expected to be sustained despite recent rumours to the contrary.

    9. Planning Matters

    a) Approval of 7/2014/4073, Craemar new building (Outline). Noted

    7/2014/4039, High Boonwood, GP Building Noted

    b) TPO (T/2014/0165), Fell View (Tree pruning adjacent to Meadowfield). Mr Gray declared an interest. No objection.

    c) 7/2014/4096 , 23 Meadowfield Grove, 2 single storey extensions. No objection but LDNPA were asked to take into consideration the outfall from a drain from No 24 Meadowfield Grove which could be impaired by construction of the rear extension.

    d) 7/2014/4069, Viking Way, Gosforth - Seascale. No objection.


    10. Correspondence.

    The Clerk read out a letter from Mr Thomas (acting for the JB Wrigley estate) informing the council that the area of woodland to the south of the carpark was to be felled. There was some confusion regarding the extent of felling as indicated on the accompanying map and the Chairman said he would clarify this with Mr Millard. If all the affected residents had not been informed the council would ensure they were.

    The Clerk reminded members that Copeland BC intended to remove the large Horse Chestnut tree on the carpark on 17 th November. The carpark would be closed as a crane had to be employed. Notices had been displayed accordingly.


    11 Police Report. The Clerk said that following a request to PC Burgess more detailed information on recent incidents was now available. During the period 16 incidents were reported: 3 involving road traffic including a minor collision; 4 road associated incidents (stray sheep, stray dogs, fallen tree and flooding near 7 – Acres); 3 incidents of theft (Sheep near Wasdale, 2 separate thefts from garden sheds in Gosforth); 2 domestic assaults; 2 Mountain Rescue call outs; 1 concern for someone’s welfare; and 1 complaint ref fireworks.


    12 Public Participation. There were no members of the public present at this point.


    13 Questions Councillors wish to raise.

    Mr Wa lton – Referred to an article from ACT which advised that Village Halls could claim a reduction in water/drainage rates by applying to be reclassified. Mr Jacob said he would discuss this with the Public Hall treasurer.

    Mr Norman – Reported on a conversation with a resident from Hallbeck Place which suggested that the qualification criteria for the social housing managed by Home Group may have been changed. Mr Jacob said he would get clarification through his Copeland BC contacts.

    He also raised the matter of the Honesty Box which had again suffered damage. It was thought that a LGV which had been parked overnight was involved and the CCTV was being examined.


    14 In Camera. None.

    There being no other business the meeting was closed at 8.40 pm .



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